The current
and the form that holds it.

We take the old Jungian names seriously. The anima is the river — the moving, feeling life that rushes and trickles and floods, chaotic but always going somewhere. The animus is the bank — the form that holds the water without choking it, and is itself cut and shaped by the current it carries.

Neither works alone. Without banks the river dissipates into marsh; without the river the banks are only cold stone. The work happens in the living tension between them — and that is the tension we tend to, in a single person or between two.

The depth of it

This is depth work, not technique applied to a problem. We move slowly and stay long. We attend to dreams, images, the things that arrive sideways, the patterns that repeat until they are met. The aim is not to manage a symptom but to change one's relationship to a whole life.

Together and apart

Yvonne and Matt practice individually, each with their own people. We also work as a pair with couples — two clinicians for two people — though that is taken on selectively, by arrangement. When we do, the river-and-bank between us is part of the instrument.

The practical shape

• RhythmWeekly at minimum; deeper work often more than once a week.
• PlaceIn person in Santa Barbara and San Francisco; by video where distance asks for it.
• BeginningA first conversation, unhurried, to feel whether the work is right.